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this

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all right guys welcome to a very

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special episode of somewhere in the

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skies

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a voice you haven't heard in quite some

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time

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so without further ado you know what

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time it is it is

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ufo happy hour and with me today is

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the one the only rob christopherson

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of the our strange skies podcast which

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is back welcome rob

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thanks man holy god it's so weird doing

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these again

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it's like you know you you talk to

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people you're talking about ufos and

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you're like

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you swore you were never gonna talk

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about them again

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and then they somehow like shoot down

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that tractor beam into my

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brain cavity and i'm back here talking

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about them again

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we got you back no you're so right man

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this is a field of study that

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um pushes you away and and draws you

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back in it's one of the most toxic

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relationships you'll ever have

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i can guarantee you that much but god is

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it man

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my god it's just you come across some

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stuff that you don't wanna

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you know even acknowledge exists within

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this community

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and then uh yeah it somehow manages to

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just be like but why haven't we solved

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this damn thing yet come on

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right it is it's frustrating and um

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you know i think the last time we spoke

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was when you came on to do our

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our unsolved mystery special which is

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still one of the most downloaded

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uh two-parter things i've done in a long

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i think that was right around when you

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took your break so i love

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you know before we start here with what

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we're going to be talking about tonight

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new york ufos which i'm so happy about

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what what made you come back with our

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strange skies and maybe tell us a little

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about your return

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your your first episode back if you

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don't mind yeah

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um it just seemed like i kept getting

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messages after i shut down and i i'd

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been shut down for four five

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six months somewhere around there and i

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just kept getting these messages and

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people just kept

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you know commenting and be like you know

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we miss you and and we hope you're doing

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good and and all this stuff and

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uh with ufos you just kind of catch the

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you ride a wave whether it's

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on a certain case whether it's on a

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certain theory whether

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it's uh stimulated by a book you

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are captured by this subject and if

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you're not it's just not

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meant for you but driven by

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that by um i i get nostalgic

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for ufos for some reason and i don't

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know what that is maybe it's like some

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thing that i have in my head that uh

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intelligence in in this universe and

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wherever the hell they come from they

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have this knack for wanting to

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people they do it incredibly terribly or

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incredibly vague ways

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armed with that um

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i came back i was right before

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in 2017 and um i figured you know if

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why not commemorate it with an

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put them back up and and then i got the

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itch to do

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new episodes and uh we just dropped

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uh it was on the mrv

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skiers had in finland in 1970 and

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of the entire experience and the

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it's out there and like the uh the

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some of the uh the narrative elements

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in the solo episodes that i do and then

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you're gonna you're gonna laugh and um

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statements i didn't think i'd be saying

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that happens from time to time yeah yes

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absolutely man what a hell of a way to

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come back to with such a weird

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weird strange case so um again i

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i think i speak for a lot of my

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many people out there we're so happy to

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have you back it's a

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this new year with

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and uh you know this bill or this this

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request within this bill about

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making the findings public and maybe

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i'll get your thoughts on that a little

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later but um like i said we're here

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of sitting down and racking our brains

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being like what else

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it's hard to find anything that's worth

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and lo and behold i knew you would do it

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you brought three unique cases to the

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this state uh has had so many more ufo

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little very infrequent a lot of the

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the the cases that i'm you know bringing

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them which i can appreciate to a certain

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known and people need to know these

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there's a ton of light pollution at

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our our airports i mean you throw up at

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insane it's like raining airplanes left

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60s and 80s as well but um is it

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one of the most light polluted states

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one of the best places to you know look

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thousand people that live there so

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unfortunate but you know uh i definitely

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just think that uh the the research is

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not being done i don't think that uh

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the investigations are really happening

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here which

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you know i can kind of understand and uh

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completely honest i don't think like

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some agencies are doing their their

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their best to do it and

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that's because it's a they're volunteer

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agencies you know

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they they do what they can uh with their

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spare time but um

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the dedicated investigators

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they're not there anymore and

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it's i think it largely has to do with

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the fact that

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those investigators kind of made a

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living

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reporting on these things and and

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submitting these stories to ufo journals

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stuff of the time but uh we don't

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they the days of um you're right all

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magazines that came out with the

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weirdest stories

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we don't have him anymore i mean god

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this is awesome

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this is something we could bring up then

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um the weekly world news is coming back

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yes isn't that awesome they did a

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kickstarter

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and they like they reached their goal in

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i think like 24 hours

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so we're gonna get more batboy we're

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gonna get more um

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you know i'm pregnant with bill

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clinton's alien human hybrid baby

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i can't wait man so i think you're right

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i think those days

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of like the john keels going all over

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the country

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and in meeting and investigating and

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writing for

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pulp magazines or or playboy or what

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have you

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um they're kind of over we live in a

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whole new digital world

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where um that's just not what's

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happening but

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let's let's stay on the positive side

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let's highlight

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these awesome stories that we did find

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about new york ufos

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do you want to go first whichever one

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the walesville new york ufo incident

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one of the most infamous cases uh new

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york cases that uh

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was a highlight for

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donald kehoe and in the blue book files

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it happened on july 1st 1954 uh between

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the hours of six and 10 p.m

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the calls started coming into

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rome new york's military depot and rome

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new york is

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uh it's in central new york it's it's

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not too far from where

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you grew up so um uh and it was alleged

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that over a thousand calls were made

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that night to the utica press

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as well and uh people were reporting

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a strange object they compared it to

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like a silvery

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like illuminated golf ball and it was

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flying over

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central new york for about four hours

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and you know aside from the numerous

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eyewitnesses that saw this on the ground

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uh back in the day there was an airline

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company called mohawk airlines

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and right i remember yeah they you know

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flew

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uh mostly within the state but uh there

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was one pilot that noted

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at 20 000 feet he saw just an extremely

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bright object that was uh flying not far

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from his plane

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but what's interesting and what was

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reported in the blue book files is that

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the officer in charge

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at uh griffis air force base which uh

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back in the day is one was one of the

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most

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active bases in new york state um

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they said that it in their files it was

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a balloon

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but the officer in charge said

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that if the object returned the next day

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that he would send out

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a plane to investigate it so

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on july 2nd the next day at about 11 00

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in the morning the air force scrambles

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an f-94

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c starfire jet it's piloted by

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lieutenant william e atkins and

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lieutenant henry f

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cowden and soon after takeoff and it

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wasn't

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exactly clear as to why they were

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dispatched in the first place

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they were sent to intercept

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um a target at about 10 000 feet and

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when they arrived at the location

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what they claimed is that they saw a

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douglas c-47 military transport plane

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and then they were sent allegedly sent

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back at least that's what the files

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initially said

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but what the pilot claimed

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was that they were sent to go look at

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another target

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and they were claiming that this target

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was a ufo they didn't know exactly what

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it was

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but as they went to investigate this

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second target

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their cockpit immediately started to

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get hotter and there was a

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a sensor that went off claiming that

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there was a fire in the cabin

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so the two men atkins and cowden

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ended up abandoning their plane and

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it crashed into the town of walesville

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and it killed four people in the process

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a man named uh yeah a man named stanley

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phillips

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his wife florence and their son gary

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they were actually just sitting in their

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car

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uh when they uh when the plane came down

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and there was a woman miss doris monroe

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who was inside her home and was killed

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at the time

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so yeah it's it's

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the story gets legs the next day when

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atkins starts making claims that

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um what was being reported

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uh was not actually what

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had happened and he maintains that

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they noticed a silvery colored object in

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the air

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it's unclear that the there's like so

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much muddying in this account because

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they're saying oh well they went and

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they investigated this c47

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and then they were just sent back while

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he's saying that well we were

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spent sent to investigate a ufo

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okay so you've got that discrepancy

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there but um

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when they investigated the plane they

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found that

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um the the military claimed that it was

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caused by a faulty

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fire detector circuit but when they

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examined

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the plane it didn't seem to be

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malfunctioning at all

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there was no evidence of smoke or oil in

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the cockpit anywhere um

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and then they started to blame the pilot

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at that point

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and saying that he didn't recognize a

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normal

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change of temperature in the cockpit

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which just it screams to me

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because like

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a fire sensor is not going to go off for

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just like a sudden change like that that

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just seems

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really dumb but the the military just

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kept muddying up

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the waters here and they were just

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saying oh well when the plane turned

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around you know that's when this manufa

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this malfunction just started to happen

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uh there's just so much

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confusion around this case and um

446
00:17:15,909 --> 00:17:14,799
the air force just kind of just kept

447
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changing its mind

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as to what they wanted to and label it

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as but um

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to me you don't scramble a jet fighter

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to investigate

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a military transport plane right like

453
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that just doesn't that doesn't make

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sense to me but

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it just seemed like the military did

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their best to downplay whatever the heck

457
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this was

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and then uh in the process

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four people were killed it's just a it's

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a crazy crazy case and it was one that

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you know donald kehoe cited as like a

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major

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cover-up in the blue book files and

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and for the air force at large yeah and

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you know kehoe was all about

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the you know the cover-up and um i mean

467
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again when four people die from a

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you know a possibly malfunctioning plane

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from a ufo

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uh that that screams yeah there's gonna

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be a cover-up

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i i hope those families were at least

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you know

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compensated or something for all of this

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but um can you think of any cases rob

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i'm trying to think off the top of my

477
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head where like

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something like this happened there was a

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we hear about instrumentation failing

480
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you know all the time with ufo cases and

481
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pilots but

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like literally heating up the cockpit

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and like

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trying to bake these guys from within

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it's crazy yeah it's not something

486
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often reported there are instances you

487
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know where

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ufos allegedly uh you know cause certain

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effects like the

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coin helicopter case the ufo at least

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according to

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you know coin and the other members of

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the crew allegedly you know that

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thing that ufo moved their plane

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00:19:07,990 --> 00:19:07,039
up like like 2 000 feet or something

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00:19:11,350 --> 00:19:08,000
like that it was

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00:19:13,830 --> 00:19:11,360
it was kind of crazy um

498
00:19:16,070 --> 00:19:13,840
there are those strange instances where

499
00:19:18,789 --> 00:19:16,080
it just seems like ufos mess with

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the instrumentation and uh in the

501
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cockpit of some planes but

502
00:19:25,510 --> 00:19:24,080
nothing like this right the the one

503
00:19:27,350 --> 00:19:25,520
that's covered about for me is the

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carlos de los santos case

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where they the ufo little literally like

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00:19:33,190 --> 00:19:31,200
crashed into his plane

507
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and then was kind of like oh we

508
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gotta help him

509
00:19:39,510 --> 00:19:37,600
like help guide him to safety after that

510
00:19:42,549 --> 00:19:39,520
i love hearing when they

511
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you know when the aliens or the

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intelligence be on the ufo messes up and

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then

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has to self-correct and help after that

515
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it's always great to hear things like

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that

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yeah and you know and sometimes it's a

518
00:19:57,909 --> 00:19:54,799
travis walton

519
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kind of case where you stupidly got out

520
00:20:01,510 --> 00:19:59,039
of a truck and you got

521
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shot with a beam of light and allegedly

522
00:20:04,710 --> 00:20:03,039
those aliens were just trying to fix you

523
00:20:07,430 --> 00:20:04,720
and you got confrontational buddy

524
00:20:09,350 --> 00:20:07,440
you got a little confrontation that's

525
00:20:11,430 --> 00:20:09,360
the redneck coming out that's his fault

526
00:20:13,270 --> 00:20:11,440
you know that is completely his fault he

527
00:20:16,310 --> 00:20:13,280
would say the same damn thing

528
00:20:18,070 --> 00:20:16,320
yeah wasn't he a boxer too from whatever

529
00:20:20,230 --> 00:20:18,080
yeah he was a scrapper yeah he was

530
00:20:23,270 --> 00:20:20,240
definitely a scrapper back in the day

531
00:20:24,630 --> 00:20:23,280
travis walton uh before the ufo

532
00:20:26,310 --> 00:20:24,640
experience uh

533
00:20:27,990 --> 00:20:26,320
definitely a little more daring than i

534
00:20:31,750 --> 00:20:28,000
think he was after it

535
00:20:32,310 --> 00:20:31,760
yeah absolutely uh for sure man well hey

536
00:20:35,590 --> 00:20:32,320
that's

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00:20:37,590 --> 00:20:35,600
dying um

538
00:20:38,789 --> 00:20:37,600
let me try to lighten things up maybe a

539
00:20:44,070 --> 00:20:38,799
little bit

540
00:20:51,190 --> 00:20:47,190
the cherry creek new york ufo landing

541
00:20:53,350 --> 00:20:51,200
this happened back in august of uh 1965

542
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it was investigated by nycap

543
00:20:56,390 --> 00:20:55,679
uh state police and the local air force

544
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base

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00:21:02,310 --> 00:20:59,679
um so this occurred uh

546
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near the william butcher dairy farm near

547
00:21:05,750 --> 00:21:03,679
cherry creek new york

548
00:21:06,870 --> 00:21:05,760
and it involved three members of the

549
00:21:08,950 --> 00:21:06,880
butcher family

550
00:21:11,029 --> 00:21:08,960
and a fourth witness and i'm just gonna

551
00:21:14,070 --> 00:21:11,039
read a little from the report here

552
00:21:17,510 --> 00:21:14,080
um so at 8 20 p.m

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on august 19th harold butcher 16 was

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operating a milking machine

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in a dairy barn housing 17 cows

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there was a portable radio on the wall

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that was turned to a newscast

558
00:21:30,630 --> 00:21:29,520
and all of a sudden this static like

559
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interference

560
00:21:35,750 --> 00:21:33,440
drowned everything out and the tr

561
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tractor which ran the milking machine

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00:21:42,149 --> 00:21:38,960
abruptly stopped and a moment later

563
00:21:44,710 --> 00:21:42,159
a holstein bowl secured outside

564
00:21:45,830 --> 00:21:44,720
began to bellow and pull at a steel bar

565
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to which it was

566
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chained to so there's a lot of

567
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going on

568
00:21:53,669 --> 00:21:52,080
for this young butcher boy and um he

569
00:21:57,110 --> 00:21:53,679
runs to a window

570
00:21:58,070 --> 00:21:57,120
and he sees a large elliptical object

571
00:22:00,789 --> 00:21:58,080
near the ground

572
00:22:01,350 --> 00:22:00,799
a fourth of a mile away and there is a

573
00:22:03,750 --> 00:22:01,360
reddish

574
00:22:05,590 --> 00:22:03,760
vapor that could be seen underneath this

575
00:22:09,750 --> 00:22:05,600
thing and he heard a steady

576
00:22:13,190 --> 00:22:09,760
beep beep beep sort of sound and the ufo

577
00:22:14,789 --> 00:22:13,200
as well coin it uh was on the ground

578
00:22:16,549 --> 00:22:14,799
only for a few seconds

579
00:22:19,270 --> 00:22:16,559
then it shot straight up and it

580
00:22:21,669 --> 00:22:19,280
disappeared into the clouds um

581
00:22:23,350 --> 00:22:21,679
so when the other witnesses came out

582
00:22:25,990 --> 00:22:23,360
after harold butcher

583
00:22:28,070 --> 00:22:26,000
um told them was yelling and screaming

584
00:22:30,630 --> 00:22:28,080
they noticed a strange odor

585
00:22:32,470 --> 00:22:30,640
and also a greenish glow in the clouds

586
00:22:35,110 --> 00:22:32,480
where the ufo had vanished

587
00:22:36,710 --> 00:22:35,120
so meantime it was found that the bull

588
00:22:39,990 --> 00:22:36,720
had bent the steel bar

589
00:22:43,110 --> 00:22:40,000
in an effort to get loose so half an

590
00:22:46,549 --> 00:22:43,120
hour later when uh the

591
00:22:47,430 --> 00:22:46,559
craft reappeared actually it starts

592
00:22:50,710 --> 00:22:47,440
circling

593
00:22:51,909 --> 00:22:50,720
the dairy farm so mrs butcher she calls

594
00:22:54,390 --> 00:22:51,919
the state police

595
00:22:56,710 --> 00:22:54,400
and two troopers come they investigate

596
00:22:59,750 --> 00:22:56,720
they notify the local air force

597
00:23:02,070 --> 00:22:59,760
so then the next day after the um the

598
00:23:04,390 --> 00:23:02,080
ufo that was circling like left again

599
00:23:07,669 --> 00:23:04,400
the next day captain james dorsey

600
00:23:10,630 --> 00:23:07,679
operations officer he arrived

601
00:23:11,750 --> 00:23:10,640
with technicians and uh they examined

602
00:23:14,870 --> 00:23:11,760
the ground

603
00:23:15,669 --> 00:23:14,880
and they found an odd purplish liquid

604
00:23:18,630 --> 00:23:15,679
substance

605
00:23:21,029 --> 00:23:18,640
that was discovered at several places

606
00:23:22,549 --> 00:23:21,039
small unexplained marks two inches wide

607
00:23:25,110 --> 00:23:22,559
two inches apart

608
00:23:26,310 --> 00:23:25,120
were also found and along with patches

609
00:23:30,070 --> 00:23:26,320
of singed

610
00:23:32,470 --> 00:23:30,080
grass and foliage so after the air force

611
00:23:35,110 --> 00:23:32,480
team left nycap members showed up and

612
00:23:37,669 --> 00:23:35,120
they obtained samples of this substance

613
00:23:38,950 --> 00:23:37,679
and they were studied at a local

614
00:23:42,070 --> 00:23:38,960
chemical place

615
00:23:43,830 --> 00:23:42,080
and um using spectrographic analysis

616
00:23:45,669 --> 00:23:43,840
it showed that the main elements of the

617
00:23:48,630 --> 00:23:45,679
liquid to be aluminum

618
00:23:51,110 --> 00:23:48,640
iron and silicon uh some phosphor

619
00:23:53,110 --> 00:23:51,120
phosphorus was found in the weed samples

620
00:23:56,149 --> 00:23:53,120
which the analyst said might cause a

621
00:23:58,549 --> 00:23:56,159
phosphate smell explaining the odor

622
00:24:00,310 --> 00:23:58,559
okay so on the night following the

623
00:24:02,630 --> 00:24:00,320
cherry creek incident state trooper

624
00:24:03,990 --> 00:24:02,640
richard ward a few miles from this area

625
00:24:06,950 --> 00:24:04,000
he watched an object with

626
00:24:08,789 --> 00:24:06,960
eight circular lights in line flying

627
00:24:11,350 --> 00:24:08,799
twice as fast as a jet

628
00:24:13,029 --> 00:24:11,360
it emitted a faint unfamiliar purring

629
00:24:15,830 --> 00:24:13,039
sound

630
00:24:17,990 --> 00:24:15,840
and then john maxwell of the nycap new

631
00:24:19,830 --> 00:24:18,000
york subcommittee

632
00:24:21,990 --> 00:24:19,840
he carefully checked the cherry creek

633
00:24:23,029 --> 00:24:22,000
site and questioned the witnesses and on

634
00:24:26,149 --> 00:24:23,039
the basin's

635
00:24:27,909 --> 00:24:26,159
basis of present evidence they believed

636
00:24:29,590 --> 00:24:27,919
this entire thing to be completely

637
00:24:30,630 --> 00:24:29,600
genuine it wasn't a hoax they weren't

638
00:24:33,990 --> 00:24:30,640
making it up

639
00:24:37,669 --> 00:24:34,000
they didn't misidentify something um

640
00:24:40,070 --> 00:24:37,679
and uh yeah this is pretty crazy man the

641
00:24:43,430 --> 00:24:40,080
animal reactions during this whole thing

642
00:24:45,029 --> 00:24:43,440
um were really interesting um

643
00:24:46,630 --> 00:24:45,039
the the people on the farm said they'd

644
00:24:50,070 --> 00:24:46,640
never seen any of the animals

645
00:24:53,269 --> 00:24:50,080
act like this before um oh this

646
00:24:54,149 --> 00:24:53,279
this too after the object that circled

647
00:24:57,029 --> 00:24:54,159
the dairy farm

648
00:24:57,590 --> 00:24:57,039
after it disappeared out of sight um it

649
00:25:00,710 --> 00:24:57,600
actually

650
00:25:02,149 --> 00:25:00,720
left a sonic boom so whatever it was

651
00:25:05,190 --> 00:25:02,159
that thing was like what

652
00:25:08,310 --> 00:25:05,200
mock yeah three five i don't know

653
00:25:10,070 --> 00:25:08,320
um pretty pretty crazy and then also

654
00:25:12,950 --> 00:25:10,080
physiological effects

655
00:25:14,070 --> 00:25:12,960
the kid who first saw it harold him and

656
00:25:16,870 --> 00:25:14,080
his younger sister

657
00:25:18,789 --> 00:25:16,880
after this whole event they had uh

658
00:25:21,590 --> 00:25:18,799
really upset stomachs

659
00:25:22,470 --> 00:25:21,600
and the cows now this is the most

660
00:25:24,710 --> 00:25:22,480
important part

661
00:25:25,909 --> 00:25:24,720
the cows were giving less than normal

662
00:25:29,590 --> 00:25:25,919
amounts of milk

663
00:25:32,149 --> 00:25:29,600
after being milked so oh man

664
00:25:32,630 --> 00:25:32,159
i don't know man what what is going on

665
00:25:34,870 --> 00:25:32,640
here

666
00:25:37,510 --> 00:25:34,880
you know it's making people sick it's

667
00:25:40,630 --> 00:25:37,520
got sonic booms it's a

668
00:25:43,110 --> 00:25:40,640
light emanating out of it um and

669
00:25:44,070 --> 00:25:43,120
the cows ain't milking like they used to

670
00:25:47,190 --> 00:25:44,080
so

671
00:25:50,630 --> 00:25:47,200
yeah that is the cherry creek landing of

672
00:25:53,750 --> 00:25:50,640
uh 1965.

673
00:25:57,350 --> 00:25:53,760
that's uh damn uh who

674
00:26:00,149 --> 00:25:57,360
is on the exopla political

675
00:26:02,549 --> 00:26:00,159
lawyer that we can get you know in touch

676
00:26:04,390 --> 00:26:02,559
to get some compensation for these cows

677
00:26:06,230 --> 00:26:04,400
that aren't putting out as much milk as

678
00:26:08,710 --> 00:26:06,240
they used to be that's a problem

679
00:26:09,269 --> 00:26:08,720
that's a problem i think we got a phone

680
00:26:11,909 --> 00:26:09,279
uh

681
00:26:13,669 --> 00:26:11,919
either stephen bassett or danny sheehan

682
00:26:16,950 --> 00:26:13,679
i think is one of the leaders right

683
00:26:19,669 --> 00:26:16,960
yeah yeah get them on the case

684
00:26:21,510 --> 00:26:19,679
um well i hope the dairy farm is doing

685
00:26:23,190 --> 00:26:21,520
okay if it's still around um

686
00:26:25,110 --> 00:26:23,200
god if they're still around now that

687
00:26:27,669 --> 00:26:25,120
that'd be amazing um right

688
00:26:28,470 --> 00:26:27,679
but yeah pretty interesting case a ufo

689
00:26:30,149 --> 00:26:28,480
landing

690
00:26:31,830 --> 00:26:30,159
in new york that i've never heard of

691
00:26:33,909 --> 00:26:31,840
before so yeah

692
00:26:35,990 --> 00:26:33,919
that's new to me man i had never heard

693
00:26:37,750 --> 00:26:36,000
of that one either and like

694
00:26:39,190 --> 00:26:37,760
that's just there's there's just like a

695
00:26:42,390 --> 00:26:39,200
lot of

696
00:26:45,750 --> 00:26:42,400
you know uh it's a it's a

697
00:26:47,830 --> 00:26:45,760
very fascinating ce2 case you got some

698
00:26:48,870 --> 00:26:47,840
physical evidence you got some animals

699
00:26:52,390 --> 00:26:48,880
just going nuts

700
00:26:52,950 --> 00:26:52,400
uh man that's uh that's the good stuff

701
00:26:54,870 --> 00:26:52,960
right there

702
00:26:57,430 --> 00:26:54,880
that's the good stuff yep that ain't no

703
00:27:00,390 --> 00:26:57,440
new york city that is the farmlands

704
00:27:01,110 --> 00:27:00,400
of central and or upstate new york for

705
00:27:03,190 --> 00:27:01,120
sure

706
00:27:04,149 --> 00:27:03,200
i mean where the where are the aliens

707
00:27:07,029 --> 00:27:04,159
gonna land

708
00:27:08,390 --> 00:27:07,039
in new york city like the the best that

709
00:27:12,390 --> 00:27:08,400
they could do

710
00:27:14,710 --> 00:27:12,400
is um north bergen new jersey in 1975

711
00:27:15,669 --> 00:27:14,720
george obarsky saw that thing he wasn't

712
00:27:19,029 --> 00:27:15,679
thrilled you know

713
00:27:19,990 --> 00:27:19,039
oh my god yo oh yeah man i remember i

714
00:27:22,950 --> 00:27:20,000
think you brought that up

715
00:27:25,269 --> 00:27:22,960
in a yeah ufo happy hour that's a great

716
00:27:27,269 --> 00:27:25,279
case i'd highly suggest people go

717
00:27:28,310 --> 00:27:27,279
check that one out as well oh barski

718
00:27:30,310 --> 00:27:28,320
what a name

719
00:27:31,909 --> 00:27:30,320
i love i love it was that the one on the

720
00:27:35,110 --> 00:27:31,919
playground

721
00:27:38,549 --> 00:27:35,120
it was in it it was in this like a large

722
00:27:39,190 --> 00:27:38,559
park that um it's named after a boxer i

723
00:27:41,909 --> 00:27:39,200
can't remember

724
00:27:42,950 --> 00:27:41,919
his name but uh yeah it was like uh in

725
00:27:46,310 --> 00:27:42,960
this

726
00:27:49,909 --> 00:27:46,320
uh kind of like tree

727
00:27:51,830 --> 00:27:49,919
shaded section but like uh what became

728
00:27:53,990 --> 00:27:51,840
so fascinating about it is like

729
00:27:55,669 --> 00:27:54,000
not only did george obarsky see these 10

730
00:27:58,870 --> 00:27:55,679
aliens get out of this

731
00:28:00,710 --> 00:27:58,880
ufo and start collecting soil samples uh

732
00:28:02,149 --> 00:28:00,720
there were eye witnesses that were able

733
00:28:04,710 --> 00:28:02,159
to corroborate it from

734
00:28:05,269 --> 00:28:04,720
the apartment building across the street

735
00:28:08,870 --> 00:28:05,279
called the

736
00:28:15,510 --> 00:28:13,350
i i am it's kind of one of my

737
00:28:16,950 --> 00:28:15,520
like bucket list items to stay for a

738
00:28:18,149 --> 00:28:16,960
night in that apartment building because

739
00:28:21,190 --> 00:28:18,159
it looks really nice

740
00:28:23,029 --> 00:28:21,200
yeah it's got really great views and uh

741
00:28:24,310 --> 00:28:23,039
you know why wouldn't you want to stay

742
00:28:27,029 --> 00:28:24,320
in an apartment building

743
00:28:28,070 --> 00:28:27,039
that had a notorious ufo incident happen

744
00:28:31,350 --> 00:28:28,080
across the street

745
00:28:33,669 --> 00:28:31,360
i mean exactly

746
00:28:35,830 --> 00:28:33,679
i guess hey it's never it's never too

747
00:28:37,350 --> 00:28:35,840
late to move man the prices here in new

748
00:28:38,710 --> 00:28:37,360
york are insane so

749
00:28:40,710 --> 00:28:38,720
maybe i'll have to make it over there

750
00:28:43,110 --> 00:28:40,720
myself but um

751
00:28:45,510 --> 00:28:43,120
i guess let's move on to this next one

752
00:28:48,070 --> 00:28:45,520
you got for us this is a ufo pursuit

753
00:28:51,110 --> 00:28:48,080
case right

754
00:28:54,669 --> 00:28:51,120
the raymond ryan ufo pursuit

755
00:28:58,149 --> 00:28:54,679
two years after my first one on april 8

756
00:29:01,190 --> 00:28:58,159
1956 at 10 15 p.m

757
00:29:04,870 --> 00:29:01,200
american airlines flight 775

758
00:29:07,350 --> 00:29:04,880
departed albany heading for buffalo um

759
00:29:08,389 --> 00:29:07,360
when the plane reached schenectady uh

760
00:29:11,190 --> 00:29:08,399
captain raymond d

761
00:29:11,990 --> 00:29:11,200
ryan and first officer william neff

762
00:29:14,470 --> 00:29:12,000
spotted this

763
00:29:16,230 --> 00:29:14,480
white light it was a couple of miles

764
00:29:19,190 --> 00:29:16,240
away from their position but

765
00:29:20,230 --> 00:29:19,200
they decided to change course to avoid

766
00:29:24,230 --> 00:29:20,240
you know

767
00:29:26,950 --> 00:29:24,240
an in-air collision and when they did

768
00:29:29,510 --> 00:29:26,960
this light immediately turned 90 degrees

769
00:29:31,510 --> 00:29:29,520
and headed straight for their airliner

770
00:29:33,110 --> 00:29:31,520
at speeds that they guessed was about

771
00:29:40,310 --> 00:29:33,120
900 miles an hour

772
00:29:42,710 --> 00:29:40,320
it was uh it was booking it

773
00:29:43,909 --> 00:29:42,720
hey guys ryan sprague here and whether

774
00:29:46,870 --> 00:29:43,919
i'm researching

775
00:29:48,470 --> 00:29:46,880
working on the podcast or sky watching

776
00:29:51,669 --> 00:29:48,480
for my roof late at night

777
00:29:53,990 --> 00:29:51,679
i need something to keep me awake alert

778
00:29:55,029 --> 00:29:54,000
and ready to tackle the mysteries in our

779
00:29:57,269 --> 00:29:55,039
skies

780
00:29:58,149 --> 00:29:57,279
that's why i'm so excited to announce

781
00:30:00,710 --> 00:29:58,159
the launch

782
00:30:01,750 --> 00:30:00,720
of the official somewhere in the skies

783
00:30:05,269 --> 00:30:01,760
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784
00:30:08,389 --> 00:30:05,279
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785
00:30:10,710 --> 00:30:08,399
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786
00:30:11,750 --> 00:30:10,720
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787
00:30:14,870 --> 00:30:11,760
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788
00:30:17,510 --> 00:30:14,880
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789
00:30:20,070 --> 00:30:17,520
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790
00:30:21,110 --> 00:30:20,080
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791
00:30:24,710 --> 00:30:21,120
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792
00:30:27,190 --> 00:30:24,720
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793
00:30:29,669 --> 00:30:27,200
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794
00:30:33,029 --> 00:30:29,679
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795
00:30:33,909 --> 00:30:33,039
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796
00:30:37,110 --> 00:30:33,919
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797
00:30:40,149 --> 00:30:37,120
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798
00:30:43,510 --> 00:30:40,159
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799
00:30:45,750 --> 00:30:43,520
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800
00:30:46,950 --> 00:30:45,760
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801
00:30:49,190 --> 00:30:46,960
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802
00:30:50,310 --> 00:30:49,200
while you listen to the podcast hunt

803
00:30:52,470 --> 00:30:50,320
down ufos

804
00:30:53,669 --> 00:30:52,480
or if you're on the run from the men in

805
00:30:58,389 --> 00:30:53,679
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806
00:30:58,950 --> 00:30:58,399
ordering this somewhere in the skies

807
00:31:00,950 --> 00:30:58,960
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808
00:31:03,350 --> 00:31:00,960
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809
00:31:05,590 --> 00:31:03,360
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813
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814
00:31:18,070 --> 00:31:17,200
remember keep your feet on the ground

815
00:31:21,190 --> 00:31:18,080
but never

816
00:31:24,710 --> 00:31:21,200
stop searching or drinking somewhere in

817
00:31:30,070 --> 00:31:27,669
ryan radioed into griffis air force base

818
00:31:31,909 --> 00:31:30,080
to report this object which

819
00:31:34,470 --> 00:31:31,919
they confirmed to be tracking on radar

820
00:31:38,149 --> 00:31:34,480
at the time uh and in response

821
00:31:41,350 --> 00:31:38,159
they scrambled two jets um but

822
00:31:42,389 --> 00:31:41,360
what's interesting here is that griffis

823
00:31:46,630 --> 00:31:42,399
air force base

824
00:31:50,470 --> 00:31:46,640
said change course pursue this thing

825
00:31:51,110 --> 00:31:50,480
and um ryan was uh ryan was there for it

826
00:31:53,909 --> 00:31:51,120
so

827
00:31:54,950 --> 00:31:53,919
he immediately changed course and he

828
00:31:58,549 --> 00:31:54,960
kept up with it

829
00:32:02,230 --> 00:31:58,559
as best as he could uh he he pursued it

830
00:32:03,909 --> 00:32:02,240
up until lake ontario um at which point

831
00:32:05,669 --> 00:32:03,919
he actually turned back around and

832
00:32:08,710 --> 00:32:05,679
headed for syracuse

833
00:32:12,070 --> 00:32:08,720
but when he ultimately landed

834
00:32:14,310 --> 00:32:12,080
in buffalo uh ryan and neff reported

835
00:32:18,149 --> 00:32:14,320
their story to the buffalo evening news

836
00:32:21,190 --> 00:32:18,159
who ran it in the papers on april 10th

837
00:32:22,870 --> 00:32:21,200
so donald kehoe pursued this story

838
00:32:25,909 --> 00:32:22,880
and when he got his hands on the

839
00:32:28,310 --> 00:32:25,919
official civil aviation authority report

840
00:32:30,789 --> 00:32:28,320
it told a much different story it stated

841
00:32:33,269 --> 00:32:30,799
that ryan did see a mysterious light but

842
00:32:36,230 --> 00:32:33,279
that he hadn't actually changed course

843
00:32:38,230 --> 00:32:36,240
and pursued the object um ryan himself

844
00:32:42,789 --> 00:32:38,240
recanted his story not long after

845
00:32:43,590 --> 00:32:42,799
but on april 16 1956 he appeared on the

846
00:32:46,149 --> 00:32:43,600
toronto

847
00:32:49,590 --> 00:32:46,159
talk show called meet the millers in

848
00:32:52,789 --> 00:32:49,600
which he attested to griffis's orders

849
00:32:54,310 --> 00:32:52,799
to pursue saying quote griffis asked us

850
00:32:55,830 --> 00:32:54,320
our next point of landing and to

851
00:32:58,149 --> 00:32:55,840
identify the aircraft

852
00:32:59,190 --> 00:32:58,159
i told them syracuse and identified the

853
00:33:01,350 --> 00:32:59,200
flight number

854
00:33:02,470 --> 00:33:01,360
they told us abandon that next landing

855
00:33:04,389 --> 00:33:02,480
temporarily

856
00:33:07,669 --> 00:33:04,399
maintain your course in altitude we're

857
00:33:11,350 --> 00:33:07,679
sending two jets to intercept the object

858
00:33:13,669 --> 00:33:11,360
despite this admission flight logs

859
00:33:16,149 --> 00:33:13,679
appeared to contradict ryan's words

860
00:33:17,430 --> 00:33:16,159
and kehoe cited this case as a major air

861
00:33:20,549 --> 00:33:17,440
force cover-up

862
00:33:24,149 --> 00:33:20,559
wow yeah yeah um

863
00:33:26,950 --> 00:33:24,159
but i think you know

864
00:33:28,870 --> 00:33:26,960
ryan probably backed down because you

865
00:33:30,070 --> 00:33:28,880
know the civil aviation authority's

866
00:33:32,630 --> 00:33:30,080
gonna

867
00:33:34,789 --> 00:33:32,640
rule on this and say oh you're crazy you

868
00:33:36,710 --> 00:33:34,799
can't you can't fly anymore

869
00:33:38,870 --> 00:33:36,720
and stuff like that but this is another

870
00:33:39,909 --> 00:33:38,880
one of those big cases for nycat back in

871
00:33:43,590 --> 00:33:39,919
the day

872
00:33:47,590 --> 00:33:43,600
in which to try and stimulate

873
00:33:50,149 --> 00:33:47,600
the congressman to hold an

874
00:33:52,549 --> 00:33:50,159
official hearing about this this was one

875
00:33:55,669 --> 00:33:52,559
of the cases that they presented and

876
00:33:59,430 --> 00:33:55,679
claimed that it was a giant cover-up and

877
00:34:02,470 --> 00:33:59,440
you know very well could have been i

878
00:34:04,470 --> 00:34:02,480
i i don't doubt him it's just there's

879
00:34:06,870 --> 00:34:04,480
always in these cases from

880
00:34:08,710 --> 00:34:06,880
blue book history when something really

881
00:34:12,550 --> 00:34:08,720
strange happens

882
00:34:16,310 --> 00:34:12,560
it's always muddied up in the files like

883
00:34:18,310 --> 00:34:16,320
the cover-up is not denial it's

884
00:34:20,790 --> 00:34:18,320
let's just confuse the hell out of you

885
00:34:23,589 --> 00:34:20,800
right that's the easiest way to do it

886
00:34:25,430 --> 00:34:23,599
exactly yeah it seems to be a way to

887
00:34:26,230 --> 00:34:25,440
muddy the waters and get everyone on

888
00:34:28,869 --> 00:34:26,240
different

889
00:34:29,669 --> 00:34:28,879
pages and then yeah i mean you look at

890
00:34:33,589 --> 00:34:29,679
something like

891
00:34:33,990 --> 00:34:33,599
uh let's take this this story that came

892
00:34:36,790 --> 00:34:34,000
out

893
00:34:37,589 --> 00:34:36,800
maybe a month ago where uh john

894
00:34:40,149 --> 00:34:37,599
greenwald

895
00:34:42,389 --> 00:34:40,159
over at the black fault you know there

896
00:34:43,270 --> 00:34:42,399
was all these headlines that the cia had

897
00:34:46,470 --> 00:34:43,280
dumped all their

898
00:34:47,990 --> 00:34:46,480
files on ufos finally to the public when

899
00:34:49,750 --> 00:34:48,000
in reality no these

900
00:34:51,669 --> 00:34:49,760
had all been accessible for a really

901
00:34:53,750 --> 00:34:51,679
long time but

902
00:34:55,750 --> 00:34:53,760
what they did is the way that john

903
00:34:57,430 --> 00:34:55,760
originally got him they sent the dude a

904
00:35:00,470 --> 00:34:57,440
cd-rom

905
00:35:03,750 --> 00:35:00,480
and they made it as hard as possible

906
00:35:06,790 --> 00:35:03,760
to either read these files or uh

907
00:35:10,230 --> 00:35:06,800
you know just there was no way to really

908
00:35:12,630 --> 00:35:10,240
search through them like in in in any

909
00:35:14,150 --> 00:35:12,640
logical way so they would make it as

910
00:35:17,109 --> 00:35:14,160
hard as possible

911
00:35:17,750 --> 00:35:17,119
for people like john or ufo researchers

912
00:35:20,069 --> 00:35:17,760
to make

913
00:35:20,870 --> 00:35:20,079
sense of any of these things so let's

914
00:35:23,190 --> 00:35:20,880
give john

915
00:35:24,870 --> 00:35:23,200
you know maybe a little ufo case here

916
00:35:27,270 --> 00:35:24,880
and then let's give them this

917
00:35:27,990 --> 00:35:27,280
thing we found a memo about missing coke

918
00:35:30,710 --> 00:35:28,000
bottles

919
00:35:31,510 --> 00:35:30,720
within one of the departments at the cia

920
00:35:33,349 --> 00:35:31,520
and if those

921
00:35:35,349 --> 00:35:33,359
coke bottles aren't returned we're going

922
00:35:37,829 --> 00:35:35,359
to get rid of the coke vending machine

923
00:35:38,390 --> 00:35:37,839
so like it's crazy man like they they

924
00:35:40,310 --> 00:35:38,400
just

925
00:35:42,150 --> 00:35:40,320
they gave him all of this stuff in hopes

926
00:35:45,589 --> 00:35:42,160
that he would kind of just give up on it

927
00:35:47,829 --> 00:35:45,599
but what does he do he literally scans

928
00:35:50,950 --> 00:35:47,839
every single file he got

929
00:35:53,589 --> 00:35:50,960
puts it into a searchable pdf format or

930
00:35:55,510 --> 00:35:53,599
of some kind and now you can say like i

931
00:35:56,390 --> 00:35:55,520
want to go to this year of the cia files

932
00:35:58,550 --> 00:35:56,400
here's everything

933
00:35:59,589 --> 00:35:58,560
i want to look for cylindrical objects

934
00:36:01,589 --> 00:35:59,599
here's everything

935
00:36:04,150 --> 00:36:01,599
so yeah man i think you're right i think

936
00:36:06,310 --> 00:36:04,160
um they will do anything they can

937
00:36:08,470 --> 00:36:06,320
to make the stories conflict for sure

938
00:36:11,510 --> 00:36:08,480
and it seems in this case

939
00:36:13,270 --> 00:36:11,520
with a lot of these new york cases uh it

940
00:36:13,910 --> 00:36:13,280
all ties back to griffiths air force

941
00:36:17,750 --> 00:36:13,920
base

942
00:36:18,390 --> 00:36:17,760
right it's pretty crazy yeah which now

943
00:36:22,069 --> 00:36:18,400
is like

944
00:36:24,069 --> 00:36:22,079
uh it's a public airfield um it was uh

945
00:36:25,190 --> 00:36:24,079
it was shut down back in the mid 90s or

946
00:36:28,230 --> 00:36:25,200
whatever but uh

947
00:36:30,870 --> 00:36:28,240
yeah it's uh uh griffis seemed to be

948
00:36:33,430 --> 00:36:30,880
like the central hub that was tracking

949
00:36:35,030 --> 00:36:33,440
you know all air traffic within new york

950
00:36:37,349 --> 00:36:35,040
at the time and it was kind of in like

951
00:36:39,430 --> 00:36:37,359
the central location to do it because it

952
00:36:40,870 --> 00:36:39,440
like rome new york is basically you know

953
00:36:41,990 --> 00:36:40,880
smack dab right in the middle of new

954
00:36:43,990 --> 00:36:42,000
york which is

955
00:36:45,349 --> 00:36:44,000
you know as states go it's very

956
00:36:48,630 --> 00:36:45,359
strangely shaped but

957
00:36:51,990 --> 00:36:48,640
um it's uh

958
00:36:53,430 --> 00:36:52,000
you know it's uh they probably did a

959
00:36:55,910 --> 00:36:53,440
fair amount of uh

960
00:36:57,109 --> 00:36:55,920
tracking of ufos back in the day and

961
00:37:00,230 --> 00:36:57,119
down playing reports

962
00:37:03,750 --> 00:37:00,240
because uh there there are a number of

963
00:37:05,430 --> 00:37:03,760
cases from new york uh in the blue book

964
00:37:08,710 --> 00:37:05,440
files that were marked as

965
00:37:10,550 --> 00:37:08,720
um uh unidentified so

966
00:37:12,470 --> 00:37:10,560
you know there's probably more gems in

967
00:37:15,430 --> 00:37:12,480
there if you can track down

968
00:37:17,430 --> 00:37:15,440
uh all the information yeah and if i'm

969
00:37:19,349 --> 00:37:17,440
not mistaken i think um

970
00:37:22,390 --> 00:37:19,359
you know a lot of people know about gary

971
00:37:25,430 --> 00:37:22,400
mckinnon the guy who hacked for ufo info

972
00:37:26,630 --> 00:37:25,440
um but the predecessor before before him

973
00:37:29,430 --> 00:37:26,640
another guy

974
00:37:30,870 --> 00:37:29,440
i think in wales uh matthew bevin when

975
00:37:33,430 --> 00:37:30,880
he was hacking into stuff

976
00:37:34,550 --> 00:37:33,440
trying to find ufo info like a decade

977
00:37:39,270 --> 00:37:34,560
before

978
00:37:41,589 --> 00:37:39,280
force base is one of the places that he

979
00:37:44,470 --> 00:37:41,599
hacked into and found stuff

980
00:37:45,750 --> 00:37:44,480
so something's going on man something is

981
00:37:49,589 --> 00:37:45,760
definitely going on

982
00:37:51,910 --> 00:37:49,599
um yep yeah for sure um cool well

983
00:37:53,670 --> 00:37:51,920
that that was that was a good one man

984
00:37:53,910 --> 00:37:53,680
i'm glad you were able to dig that one

985
00:37:57,270 --> 00:37:53,920
up

986
00:38:01,109 --> 00:37:57,280
um here's my next one and this

987
00:38:04,630 --> 00:38:01,119
is actually comes out of the book

988
00:38:05,510 --> 00:38:04,640
night siege uh by uh philip imbrogno bob

989
00:38:08,950 --> 00:38:05,520
pratt and

990
00:38:09,750 --> 00:38:08,960
of course famed j allen heineck uh about

991
00:38:12,230 --> 00:38:09,760
the famous

992
00:38:13,349 --> 00:38:12,240
like we mentioned hudson valley ufo wave

993
00:38:17,349 --> 00:38:13,359
but this happened

994
00:38:20,069 --> 00:38:17,359
um kind of right before or maybe in the

995
00:38:21,910 --> 00:38:20,079
middle of it

996
00:38:23,270 --> 00:38:21,920
the indian point nuclear reactor

997
00:38:25,589 --> 00:38:23,280
incident

998
00:38:26,390 --> 00:38:25,599
so there's this place called indian

999
00:38:29,990 --> 00:38:26,400
point

1000
00:38:33,109 --> 00:38:30,000
uh reactor it's a nuclear site

1001
00:38:37,670 --> 00:38:33,119
in um in new york and uh

1002
00:38:40,630 --> 00:38:37,680
this brings us back to 1984 on july 24th

1003
00:38:42,710 --> 00:38:40,640
indian point energy and uh it's a three

1004
00:38:45,589 --> 00:38:42,720
unit nuclear power plant station

1005
00:38:47,270 --> 00:38:45,599
there we go located in buchanan new york

1006
00:38:50,630 --> 00:38:47,280
right off the hudson river

1007
00:38:53,510 --> 00:38:50,640
and so on this night a security guard

1008
00:38:55,829 --> 00:38:53,520
he gets on the radio and he alerts the

1009
00:38:58,470 --> 00:38:55,839
other personnel that he had cited

1010
00:38:59,829 --> 00:38:58,480
something that looked like end quote ice

1011
00:39:03,030 --> 00:38:59,839
cream cone

1012
00:39:03,589 --> 00:39:03,040
over reactor 3 at the site which mind

1013
00:39:06,310 --> 00:39:03,599
you

1014
00:39:07,430 --> 00:39:06,320
was the only active reactor at the time

1015
00:39:09,510 --> 00:39:07,440
so of course

1016
00:39:11,349 --> 00:39:09,520
this is where a ufo is going to be cited

1017
00:39:14,230 --> 00:39:11,359
over the one active

1018
00:39:14,870 --> 00:39:14,240
reactor um so of course they're freaking

1019
00:39:17,030 --> 00:39:14,880
out

1020
00:39:18,069 --> 00:39:17,040
and uh he starts getting all the other

1021
00:39:19,829 --> 00:39:18,079
security

1022
00:39:21,430 --> 00:39:19,839
um on the line and saying has anyone

1023
00:39:24,230 --> 00:39:21,440
seen this anyone seen this and

1024
00:39:26,150 --> 00:39:24,240
another guy says that uh he did see it

1025
00:39:29,510 --> 00:39:26,160
but it looked boomerang shaped

1026
00:39:31,990 --> 00:39:29,520
to him and um this thing it's just

1027
00:39:33,109 --> 00:39:32,000
chilling like a 300 feet above this

1028
00:39:35,270 --> 00:39:33,119
reactor

1029
00:39:37,430 --> 00:39:35,280
and they said it was massive dude like

1030
00:39:40,069 --> 00:39:37,440
three football fields in length

1031
00:39:41,190 --> 00:39:40,079
and it was extremely bright very

1032
00:39:44,470 --> 00:39:41,200
blinding

1033
00:39:45,510 --> 00:39:44,480
and so eventually the thing disappears

1034
00:39:48,950 --> 00:39:45,520
out of sight

1035
00:39:50,630 --> 00:39:48,960
and the reactor it didn't seem to be

1036
00:39:52,230 --> 00:39:50,640
adversely affected by whatever this

1037
00:39:55,190 --> 00:39:52,240
thing was or anything but um

1038
00:39:56,230 --> 00:39:55,200
clearly there was a breach of security

1039
00:39:58,870 --> 00:39:56,240
so uh

1040
00:40:01,030 --> 00:39:58,880
the the main investigator on this

1041
00:40:02,069 --> 00:40:01,040
controversial ufo researcher philip and

1042
00:40:04,150 --> 00:40:02,079
brogno

1043
00:40:06,069 --> 00:40:04,160
um who would go on to investigate hudson

1044
00:40:08,829 --> 00:40:06,079
valley and everything he uh

1045
00:40:10,390 --> 00:40:08,839
he discovered that uh the reactor

1046
00:40:12,470 --> 00:40:10,400
services

1047
00:40:14,550 --> 00:40:12,480
local and state facilities including new

1048
00:40:16,950 --> 00:40:14,560
york city subway systems

1049
00:40:19,270 --> 00:40:16,960
trains and several military

1050
00:40:23,030 --> 00:40:19,280
installations around dutchess county

1051
00:40:24,390 --> 00:40:23,040
new york so um the the main company

1052
00:40:27,750 --> 00:40:24,400
overseeing all of this

1053
00:40:31,270 --> 00:40:27,760
in is the new york power authority

1054
00:40:34,470 --> 00:40:31,280
and supposedly uh they dissuaded

1055
00:40:36,470 --> 00:40:34,480
as imbrogno puts it dissuaded him to not

1056
00:40:39,990 --> 00:40:36,480
publicize this incident

1057
00:40:42,550 --> 00:40:40,000
so he uh he kind of kept quiet about it

1058
00:40:43,270 --> 00:40:42,560
and um but then more witnesses started

1059
00:40:44,950 --> 00:40:43,280
coming

1060
00:40:46,550 --> 00:40:44,960
forward from indian point and

1061
00:40:48,950 --> 00:40:46,560
surrounding areas

1062
00:40:50,390 --> 00:40:48,960
and talking to him and um one of the

1063
00:40:53,430 --> 00:40:50,400
security guys

1064
00:40:55,270 --> 00:40:53,440
he told he told imbrogno quote as the

1065
00:40:56,630 --> 00:40:55,280
object approached the east gate of the

1066
00:40:58,950 --> 00:40:56,640
reactor complex

1067
00:41:01,349 --> 00:40:58,960
the sensors that detect movement shut

1068
00:41:03,750 --> 00:41:01,359
down and the entire alarm system

1069
00:41:05,990 --> 00:41:03,760
failed at this time i radioed for

1070
00:41:08,390 --> 00:41:06,000
assistance and several other officers

1071
00:41:09,030 --> 00:41:08,400
left their posts and joined me at the

1072
00:41:10,870 --> 00:41:09,040
east end

1073
00:41:13,670 --> 00:41:10,880
of the plant to watch the object

1074
00:41:14,870 --> 00:41:13,680
approach inside the security console the

1075
00:41:18,550 --> 00:41:14,880
computer that controls

1076
00:41:20,470 --> 00:41:18,560
all security and communications shutdown

1077
00:41:22,950 --> 00:41:20,480
the cameras were still however

1078
00:41:25,270 --> 00:41:22,960
functioning and we know for sure that

1079
00:41:27,750 --> 00:41:25,280
the object was videotaped

1080
00:41:28,630 --> 00:41:27,760
um but then he went on to tell in

1081
00:41:31,349 --> 00:41:28,640
broadnote that

1082
00:41:32,710 --> 00:41:31,359
the next day the commander called in all

1083
00:41:34,870 --> 00:41:32,720
the guards involved

1084
00:41:36,550 --> 00:41:34,880
and informed them that quote nothing

1085
00:41:38,309 --> 00:41:36,560
happened

1086
00:41:40,069 --> 00:41:38,319
there were they were all ordered to

1087
00:41:42,550 --> 00:41:40,079
forget the entire incident

1088
00:41:44,710 --> 00:41:42,560
um and all radio communications that

1089
00:41:48,150 --> 00:41:44,720
night were taped but according to

1090
00:41:51,270 --> 00:41:48,160
the plant supervisor the tapes no longer

1091
00:41:51,829 --> 00:41:51,280
exist which i find very hard to believe

1092
00:41:54,550 --> 00:41:51,839
so

1093
00:41:55,750 --> 00:41:54,560
yeah yeah man this is pretty crazy we

1094
00:41:59,109 --> 00:41:55,760
got a ufo

1095
00:42:02,309 --> 00:41:59,119
and nuke case in new york state

1096
00:42:05,750 --> 00:42:02,319
this is why currently

1097
00:42:07,829 --> 00:42:05,760
indian point energy center has a 3.4

1098
00:42:09,990 --> 00:42:07,839
rating on google right now it's because

1099
00:42:11,910 --> 00:42:10,000
of crap like this

1100
00:42:14,150 --> 00:42:11,920
this could be a five-star facility but

1101
00:42:17,030 --> 00:42:14,160
no you got to cover up your dang ufo

1102
00:42:18,470 --> 00:42:17,040
sightings right over the damn thing and

1103
00:42:21,750 --> 00:42:18,480
this is what you get

1104
00:42:22,230 --> 00:42:21,760
uh i uh fun fact here they are open 24

1105
00:42:24,790 --> 00:42:22,240
hours

1106
00:42:27,750 --> 00:42:24,800
i would certainly hope so oh that that's

1107
00:42:31,910 --> 00:42:29,670
i would hope so especially if they're

1108
00:42:33,030 --> 00:42:31,920
powering the uh new york city subway

1109
00:42:36,150 --> 00:42:33,040
system

1110
00:42:37,270 --> 00:42:36,160
right yeah absolutely uh you gotta they

1111
00:42:39,190 --> 00:42:37,280
gotta be going

1112
00:42:41,030 --> 00:42:39,200
guys you gotta be pulling those

1113
00:42:43,109 --> 00:42:41,040
all-nighters that's just the way

1114
00:42:44,710 --> 00:42:43,119
that it has to be but it's always

1115
00:42:47,829 --> 00:42:44,720
interesting when you hear

1116
00:42:49,990 --> 00:42:47,839
cases of ufos just

1117
00:42:51,990 --> 00:42:50,000
hanging out over nuclear sites over

1118
00:42:55,109 --> 00:42:52,000
military sites there was one

1119
00:42:58,230 --> 00:42:55,119
interesting case that i stumbled upon

1120
00:43:02,309 --> 00:42:58,240
about a month ago from italy

1121
00:43:05,589 --> 00:43:02,319
uh back in july of 77

1122
00:43:09,430 --> 00:43:05,599
over this nato base in northern italy

1123
00:43:11,510 --> 00:43:09,440
there was this really large

1124
00:43:13,349 --> 00:43:11,520
flying saucer that just hovered over

1125
00:43:15,829 --> 00:43:13,359
this igloo that was

1126
00:43:17,030 --> 00:43:15,839
storing uh jet fighters and it was there

1127
00:43:19,510 --> 00:43:17,040
for like maybe an hour

1128
00:43:21,190 --> 00:43:19,520
it was corroborated by uh other

1129
00:43:24,870 --> 00:43:21,200
eyewitnesses off the base

1130
00:43:26,309 --> 00:43:24,880
and uh it's stories like that

1131
00:43:27,670 --> 00:43:26,319
that are that are just always

1132
00:43:29,750 --> 00:43:27,680
fascinating it's just like hey we're

1133
00:43:31,670 --> 00:43:29,760
gonna hang out here you know

1134
00:43:33,430 --> 00:43:31,680
we're uh we're at o'hare airport we're

1135
00:43:34,950 --> 00:43:33,440
just gonna hang up above the terminal

1136
00:43:36,950 --> 00:43:34,960
here for a little bit and then uh

1137
00:43:38,950 --> 00:43:36,960
you know we'll we'll punch you know

1138
00:43:41,589 --> 00:43:38,960
holes through the clouds whatever

1139
00:43:43,349 --> 00:43:41,599
yeah man again it's this trickster

1140
00:43:45,750 --> 00:43:43,359
element to all of this like

1141
00:43:48,230 --> 00:43:45,760
yeah why we while we can be like yeah

1142
00:43:50,470 --> 00:43:48,240
red alert ufos nukes and everything

1143
00:43:52,550 --> 00:43:50,480
i still think they're messing with us

1144
00:43:55,510 --> 00:43:52,560
you know like if they really wanted to

1145
00:43:56,230 --> 00:43:55,520
cause destruction or really send a

1146
00:43:58,630 --> 00:43:56,240
message

1147
00:43:59,349 --> 00:43:58,640
they would render these things useless

1148
00:44:01,349 --> 00:43:59,359
forever

1149
00:44:02,950 --> 00:44:01,359
or they would just blow them all up you

1150
00:44:05,829 --> 00:44:02,960
know so why

1151
00:44:08,309 --> 00:44:05,839
why are they just hovering over it um is

1152
00:44:11,190 --> 00:44:08,319
it just to scare the out of us or

1153
00:44:11,990 --> 00:44:11,200
or make us think wow something could

1154
00:44:13,750 --> 00:44:12,000
have happened

1155
00:44:15,270 --> 00:44:13,760
maybe we should rethink this i don't

1156
00:44:18,710 --> 00:44:15,280
know i don't know yeah

1157
00:44:22,069 --> 00:44:18,720
um i what i want to know now is

1158
00:44:24,390 --> 00:44:22,079
are aliens in on the

1159
00:44:25,430 --> 00:44:24,400
online review game and are they the ones

1160
00:44:27,750 --> 00:44:25,440
that drove down

1161
00:44:28,630 --> 00:44:27,760
their rating for the indian point energy

1162
00:44:30,710 --> 00:44:28,640
center like

1163
00:44:31,990 --> 00:44:30,720
i wanna know are they giving one-star

1164
00:44:34,150 --> 00:44:32,000
reviews right now because

1165
00:44:36,710 --> 00:44:34,160
if they are we've gotta we've got an

1166
00:44:37,190 --> 00:44:36,720
even bigger problem here uh that we need

1167
00:44:39,190 --> 00:44:37,200
to

1168
00:44:40,710 --> 00:44:39,200
tackle and i don't know how we're gonna

1169
00:44:43,349 --> 00:44:40,720
do it um

1170
00:44:46,069 --> 00:44:43,359
how do we how do we tune in to like

1171
00:44:47,829 --> 00:44:46,079
alien podcasts and give them one stars

1172
00:44:49,910 --> 00:44:47,839
i don't know i don't know but if they're

1173
00:44:51,510 --> 00:44:49,920
gonna be out here giving us one stars

1174
00:44:54,309 --> 00:44:51,520
for our energy centers

1175
00:44:54,870 --> 00:44:54,319
we got to deal with that intergalactic

1176
00:44:56,309 --> 00:44:54,880
bots

1177
00:44:57,910 --> 00:44:56,319
that's what we need man that is

1178
00:44:59,910 --> 00:44:57,920
definitely what we need um

1179
00:45:01,430 --> 00:44:59,920
uh your joke is so much better than mine

1180
00:45:04,150 --> 00:45:01,440
i was gonna say well it was

1181
00:45:05,190 --> 00:45:04,160
ice cream cone shape so maybe they were

1182
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:05,200
trying to

1183
00:45:08,390 --> 00:45:06,890
cool off the reactor

1184
00:45:10,309 --> 00:45:08,400
[Music]

1185
00:45:11,910 --> 00:45:10,319
listen man sometimes you got to cool

1186
00:45:13,750 --> 00:45:11,920
those things down it's right by the

1187
00:45:17,190 --> 00:45:13,760
water but you know what sometimes

1188
00:45:19,510 --> 00:45:17,200
especially you know those days get

1189
00:45:20,470 --> 00:45:19,520
they get too hot down there like it was

1190
00:45:23,910 --> 00:45:20,480
july

1191
00:45:27,270 --> 00:45:23,920
you know

1192
00:45:30,150 --> 00:45:27,280
southern new york here so uh

1193
00:45:30,710 --> 00:45:30,160
those guys don't know what it's like to

1194
00:45:32,710 --> 00:45:30,720
be

1195
00:45:34,150 --> 00:45:32,720
negative 20 with the wind chill that

1196
00:45:36,870 --> 00:45:34,160
puts it to negative 40

1197
00:45:38,390 --> 00:45:36,880
like like we do up here you know you

1198
00:45:41,430 --> 00:45:38,400
have those days but

1199
00:45:44,630 --> 00:45:41,440
uh sometimes that energy just needs

1200
00:45:46,710 --> 00:45:44,640
a a nice cool treat and and i

1201
00:45:48,550 --> 00:45:46,720
i can understand that uh i think what's

1202
00:45:52,230 --> 00:45:48,560
interesting about the

1203
00:45:54,470 --> 00:45:52,240
ice cream cone shape uh of it is that

1204
00:45:56,309 --> 00:45:54,480
there is a history of objects that look

1205
00:45:59,910 --> 00:45:56,319
like ice cream

1206
00:46:00,790 --> 00:45:59,920
absolutely thomas mantell claimed to see

1207
00:46:03,510 --> 00:46:00,800
something that looked

1208
00:46:04,309 --> 00:46:03,520
vaguely ice cream shaped uh you know

1209
00:46:06,309 --> 00:46:04,319
which you can

1210
00:46:08,630 --> 00:46:06,319
say that's a balloon but it didn't

1211
00:46:11,190 --> 00:46:08,640
really it moved too fast to be a balloon

1212
00:46:13,030 --> 00:46:11,200
uh the the guys in the portage county

1213
00:46:16,790 --> 00:46:13,040
ufo chase dale sparr

1214
00:46:18,950 --> 00:46:16,800
who like pursued that ufo 60 miles over

1215
00:46:19,910 --> 00:46:18,960
into pennsylvania he claimed that the

1216
00:46:23,030 --> 00:46:19,920
ufo

1217
00:46:24,950 --> 00:46:23,040
was uh ice cream cone shape and like

1218
00:46:26,630 --> 00:46:24,960
that's one of the strangest

1219
00:46:27,990 --> 00:46:26,640
shapes that keeps popping up from time

1220
00:46:31,190 --> 00:46:28,000
to time it's like ice

1221
00:46:33,430 --> 00:46:31,200
cream cone just hanging out oh

1222
00:46:34,710 --> 00:46:33,440
man well first of all i knew again this

1223
00:46:36,950 --> 00:46:34,720
is why you're here rob i know you can

1224
00:46:39,109 --> 00:46:36,960
just rattle off names and dates of cases

1225
00:46:41,670 --> 00:46:39,119
that i'm just like ah why do i even

1226
00:46:46,309 --> 00:46:41,680
bother having a podcast

1227
00:46:50,470 --> 00:46:48,230
i'm just i'm thinking to you now july

1228
00:46:53,910 --> 00:46:50,480
24th that was like

1229
00:46:56,550 --> 00:46:53,920
eight days before my birthday my literal

1230
00:46:58,230 --> 00:46:56,560
birthday god i could have had a ufo

1231
00:46:59,109 --> 00:46:58,240
nukes case on my birthday if they had

1232
00:47:01,589 --> 00:46:59,119
waited

1233
00:47:03,349 --> 00:47:01,599
like no man one more week damn you ice

1234
00:47:05,750 --> 00:47:03,359
cream cone alien so well

1235
00:47:06,790 --> 00:47:05,760
well let's let's move to our last case

1236
00:47:10,069 --> 00:47:06,800
to bookend

1237
00:47:13,430 --> 00:47:10,079
our new york cases

1238
00:47:16,150 --> 00:47:13,440
rita mali's ufo encounter

1239
00:47:16,630 --> 00:47:16,160
tell us about rita o'malley if you would

1240
00:47:18,150 --> 00:47:16,640
oh

1241
00:47:20,309 --> 00:47:18,160
man this is this is definitely one of

1242
00:47:23,349 --> 00:47:20,319
the strangest new york cases

1243
00:47:25,910 --> 00:47:23,359
that i think we have here um this one

1244
00:47:29,190 --> 00:47:25,920
comes from the pages of john keels

1245
00:47:31,990 --> 00:47:29,200
operation trojan horse and it fits into

1246
00:47:32,870 --> 00:47:32,000
the flap of sightings that was occurring

1247
00:47:36,150 --> 00:47:32,880
between

1248
00:47:37,829 --> 00:47:36,160
65 and 67 in the states and on the

1249
00:47:41,990 --> 00:47:37,839
evening of tuesday

1250
00:47:43,349 --> 00:47:42,000
december 12 1967 miss rita molly was

1251
00:47:46,790 --> 00:47:43,359
driving home

1252
00:47:49,910 --> 00:47:46,800
she lived in ithaca at the time and

1253
00:47:50,630 --> 00:47:49,920
out of the back window of the car her

1254
00:47:52,790 --> 00:47:50,640
son

1255
00:47:54,309 --> 00:47:52,800
that was riding with her spotted a red

1256
00:47:55,510 --> 00:47:54,319
light that seemed to be tailing the

1257
00:47:58,790 --> 00:47:55,520
vehicle

1258
00:48:00,549 --> 00:47:58,800
so rita was speeding at the time

1259
00:48:03,349 --> 00:48:00,559
so she assumed she was about to be

1260
00:48:04,790 --> 00:48:03,359
pulled over by the cops but

1261
00:48:06,630 --> 00:48:04,800
when she looked out the window she

1262
00:48:07,670 --> 00:48:06,640
realized that she was being paced not by

1263
00:48:10,950 --> 00:48:07,680
a police cruiser

1264
00:48:13,030 --> 00:48:10,960
but by a ufo it was shaped like a disc

1265
00:48:17,270 --> 00:48:13,040
about the size of a boxcar

1266
00:48:18,630 --> 00:48:17,280
with a dome top and square red and green

1267
00:48:22,150 --> 00:48:18,640
windows

1268
00:48:23,750 --> 00:48:22,160
she told john keel she also described

1269
00:48:25,910 --> 00:48:23,760
hearing a humming sound

1270
00:48:27,030 --> 00:48:25,920
uh the same kind made by like a

1271
00:48:31,750 --> 00:48:27,040
television an old

1272
00:48:33,750 --> 00:48:31,760
tube set television she came uh

1273
00:48:36,390 --> 00:48:33,760
she came back to her five-year-old son

1274
00:48:38,230 --> 00:48:36,400
dana to like brace himself like she was

1275
00:48:39,589 --> 00:48:38,240
thinking like this thing is gonna make

1276
00:48:42,950 --> 00:48:39,599
an impact with us

1277
00:48:44,710 --> 00:48:42,960
just brace yourself uh uh but when she

1278
00:48:45,829 --> 00:48:44,720
did she noticed that he was in some kind

1279
00:48:48,470 --> 00:48:45,839
of trance

1280
00:48:49,750 --> 00:48:48,480
and it was at this point that the car

1281
00:48:53,030 --> 00:48:49,760
was taken over

1282
00:48:53,990 --> 00:48:53,040
by the ufo it was pulled over to over

1283
00:48:56,630 --> 00:48:54,000
the shoulder

1284
00:48:58,069 --> 00:48:56,640
and into an alfalfa field where it came

1285
00:49:00,710 --> 00:48:58,079
to a stop

1286
00:49:01,990 --> 00:49:00,720
quote a white twirling beam of light

1287
00:49:04,790 --> 00:49:02,000
flashed down from the

1288
00:49:06,549 --> 00:49:04,800
object i heard the humming sound then i

1289
00:49:08,309 --> 00:49:06,559
began to hear voices

1290
00:49:10,069 --> 00:49:08,319
they didn't sound like male or female

1291
00:49:12,470 --> 00:49:10,079
voices but were weird

1292
00:49:13,750 --> 00:49:12,480
the words were broken and jerky like the

1293
00:49:16,150 --> 00:49:13,760
way a translator

1294
00:49:17,589 --> 00:49:16,160
sounds when he is repeating a speech at

1295
00:49:19,589 --> 00:49:17,599
the united nations

1296
00:49:21,349 --> 00:49:19,599
but it was like a weird chorus of

1297
00:49:24,069 --> 00:49:21,359
several voices

1298
00:49:25,670 --> 00:49:24,079
i became hysterical my son would not

1299
00:49:28,790 --> 00:49:25,680
respond to my cries

1300
00:49:30,150 --> 00:49:28,800
i knew the radio wasn't on the voices

1301
00:49:32,630 --> 00:49:30,160
named someone i knew

1302
00:49:34,549 --> 00:49:32,640
and said that at that moment my friend

1303
00:49:35,829 --> 00:49:34,559
was involved in a terrible accident

1304
00:49:38,069 --> 00:49:35,839
miles away

1305
00:49:39,109 --> 00:49:38,079
they said my son would not remember any

1306
00:49:41,430 --> 00:49:39,119
of this

1307
00:49:42,470 --> 00:49:41,440
then the car began to move again

1308
00:49:45,349 --> 00:49:42,480
although still

1309
00:49:47,349 --> 00:49:45,359
not under my control we came up out of

1310
00:49:49,750 --> 00:49:47,359
that field and over the ditch

1311
00:49:51,349 --> 00:49:49,760
as if it were nothing and then back onto

1312
00:49:55,030 --> 00:49:51,359
the road

1313
00:49:57,190 --> 00:49:55,040
rita then raced home she was

1314
00:49:58,470 --> 00:49:57,200
just incredibly panicked and you know

1315
00:50:01,270 --> 00:49:58,480
rightfully so

1316
00:50:03,109 --> 00:50:01,280
i can completely understand uh when she

1317
00:50:05,829 --> 00:50:03,119
flew through her front door

1318
00:50:06,950 --> 00:50:05,839
um the next day she did in fact learn

1319
00:50:12,309 --> 00:50:06,960
that her friend

1320
00:50:15,430 --> 00:50:12,319
had been in a terrible car accident whoa

1321
00:50:19,510 --> 00:50:15,440
yeah okay this is definitely

1322
00:50:21,430 --> 00:50:19,520
one of the weirdest

1323
00:50:24,069 --> 00:50:21,440
god i don't even know what to make it

1324
00:50:27,190 --> 00:50:24,079
yeah it's got a little bit of everything

1325
00:50:31,910 --> 00:50:27,200
it does it ufo's taking over cars

1326
00:50:34,390 --> 00:50:31,920
we've had cases like that uh uh

1327
00:50:37,030 --> 00:50:34,400
what the hell man what they really your

1328
00:50:39,109 --> 00:50:37,040
ufo is literally taking over a car

1329
00:50:40,950 --> 00:50:39,119
you have singled out this woman and you

1330
00:50:43,750 --> 00:50:40,960
brought her into an alfalfa field

1331
00:50:44,630 --> 00:50:43,760
are you kidding me right now alfalfa you

1332
00:50:46,309 --> 00:50:44,640
couldn't bring it

1333
00:50:48,069 --> 00:50:46,319
you couldn't like tie it into like a

1334
00:50:51,349 --> 00:50:48,079
cornfield or something maybe

1335
00:50:54,309 --> 00:50:51,359
maybe we could lavender maybe yeah

1336
00:50:54,950 --> 00:50:54,319
you know like me we got some sunflowers

1337
00:50:56,630 --> 00:50:54,960
out there

1338
00:50:58,710 --> 00:50:56,640
let's do something a little more classy

1339
00:51:01,190 --> 00:50:58,720
than alpha also

1340
00:51:02,390 --> 00:51:01,200
come on that's like the you dig off

1341
00:51:05,030 --> 00:51:02,400
of your salad

1342
00:51:05,670 --> 00:51:05,040
and don't eat right yeah pretty much

1343
00:51:07,910 --> 00:51:05,680
like

1344
00:51:08,870 --> 00:51:07,920
it's it's not something that you want

1345
00:51:10,870 --> 00:51:08,880
like

1346
00:51:13,349 --> 00:51:10,880
it's named for one of the little rascals

1347
00:51:15,829 --> 00:51:13,359
here you know

1348
00:51:18,950 --> 00:51:15,839
good good reference i i knew we could

1349
00:51:20,790 --> 00:51:18,960
work little rascals into this somehow

1350
00:51:22,710 --> 00:51:20,800
little rascals doesn't get worked in

1351
00:51:25,030 --> 00:51:22,720
enough to ufo

1352
00:51:27,270 --> 00:51:25,040
war and literature we need more of it

1353
00:51:30,549 --> 00:51:27,280
yup if not you're not doing your job

1354
00:51:33,829 --> 00:51:30,559
wow man that one's crazy

1355
00:51:35,750 --> 00:51:33,839
ah i'm there's

1356
00:51:37,750 --> 00:51:35,760
i don't know are there any others you

1357
00:51:40,309 --> 00:51:37,760
can really think of these were the

1358
00:51:41,270 --> 00:51:40,319
the two main ones i came across there is

1359
00:51:44,630 --> 00:51:41,280
i should say

1360
00:51:46,870 --> 00:51:44,640
speaking of john keel um some murmurs

1361
00:51:47,990 --> 00:51:46,880
of mount misery which i believe is in

1362
00:51:51,589 --> 00:51:48,000
long island

1363
00:51:53,430 --> 00:51:51,599
um of men in black and

1364
00:51:55,190 --> 00:51:53,440
and stuff like that but i didn't really

1365
00:51:56,790 --> 00:51:55,200
come up with anything specific in terms

1366
00:52:00,069 --> 00:51:56,800
of that do you know anything about

1367
00:52:02,309 --> 00:52:00,079
kale's work up in long island

1368
00:52:04,390 --> 00:52:02,319
mount misery is kind of it's one of

1369
00:52:07,109 --> 00:52:04,400
those notorious places that

1370
00:52:07,670 --> 00:52:07,119
people claim to have all kinds of

1371
00:52:10,710 --> 00:52:07,680
different

1372
00:52:13,910 --> 00:52:10,720
strange interactions with uh

1373
00:52:16,470 --> 00:52:13,920
you know spirit phenomenon you have ufo

1374
00:52:17,510 --> 00:52:16,480
sightings there's just like a lot of

1375
00:52:20,870 --> 00:52:17,520
weird

1376
00:52:23,910 --> 00:52:20,880
things reported at mount misery uh

1377
00:52:25,589 --> 00:52:23,920
but um yeah it's um

1378
00:52:27,750 --> 00:52:25,599
there aren't a lot of specifics that

1379
00:52:29,829 --> 00:52:27,760
come about it but uh

1380
00:52:30,870 --> 00:52:29,839
it's just kind of one of those places in

1381
00:52:33,829 --> 00:52:30,880
new york that has

1382
00:52:35,829 --> 00:52:33,839
this very eerie reputation for strange

1383
00:52:38,069 --> 00:52:35,839
things that happen in and around it

1384
00:52:39,589 --> 00:52:38,079
yeah it's just one exactly it's one of

1385
00:52:43,030 --> 00:52:39,599
those places

1386
00:52:43,910 --> 00:52:43,040
man rob these are great man i knew if we

1387
00:52:46,950 --> 00:52:43,920
really dug

1388
00:52:49,190 --> 00:52:46,960
and i knew if i if i came to you that we

1389
00:52:51,270 --> 00:52:49,200
would find something to make our home

1390
00:52:53,430 --> 00:52:51,280
state truly proud of

1391
00:52:55,670 --> 00:52:53,440
you know that's what we're doing here

1392
00:52:58,390 --> 00:52:55,680
we're we need to

1393
00:52:59,589 --> 00:52:58,400
put new york out there listen we're here

1394
00:53:00,950 --> 00:52:59,599
we're here right now

1395
00:53:02,950 --> 00:53:00,960
there isn't a lot of good things

1396
00:53:05,430 --> 00:53:02,960
happening in new york right now

1397
00:53:06,950 --> 00:53:05,440
uh we'll be all right i think i think

1398
00:53:07,910 --> 00:53:06,960
we'll be all right with this one but you

1399
00:53:10,069 --> 00:53:07,920
know we

1400
00:53:11,349 --> 00:53:10,079
we we got the rhona pretty bad up here

1401
00:53:13,589 --> 00:53:11,359
but you know what

1402
00:53:15,510 --> 00:53:13,599
if we can make it weirder that's it's

1403
00:53:16,230 --> 00:53:15,520
our job we got to make it weirder we got

1404
00:53:19,109 --> 00:53:16,240
to tell

1405
00:53:20,069 --> 00:53:19,119
the weird stories that everybody needs

1406
00:53:22,390 --> 00:53:20,079
to know

1407
00:53:23,750 --> 00:53:22,400
so that there's a little you know

1408
00:53:27,589 --> 00:53:23,760
there's a little faith

1409
00:53:30,710 --> 00:53:27,599
uh in in new york and and stuff and like

1410
00:53:33,030 --> 00:53:30,720
uh new york had its uh brush with its

1411
00:53:36,470 --> 00:53:33,040
mystery air flap in 1909

1412
00:53:39,349 --> 00:53:36,480
down in the pine bush area which is uh

1413
00:53:41,829 --> 00:53:39,359
where a lot of uh sightings during the

1414
00:53:44,390 --> 00:53:41,839
hudson valley flap took place and

1415
00:53:46,069 --> 00:53:44,400
i think what uh with hudson valley what

1416
00:53:48,470 --> 00:53:46,079
that flap doesn't get

1417
00:53:50,230 --> 00:53:48,480
uh the reputation for that it truly

1418
00:53:52,630 --> 00:53:50,240
deserves is

1419
00:53:53,990 --> 00:53:52,640
witnesses having psychic encounters with

1420
00:53:57,430 --> 00:53:54,000
ufos in which

1421
00:53:59,750 --> 00:53:57,440
uh they would often see these ufos have

1422
00:54:03,829 --> 00:53:59,760
a thought and the ufo would react like

1423
00:54:06,950 --> 00:54:03,839
there was one story in which a woman

1424
00:54:07,910 --> 00:54:06,960
saw this ufo i think it was um uh she

1425
00:54:11,030 --> 00:54:07,920
was on the

1426
00:54:12,470 --> 00:54:11,040
highway she pulled off and i believe it

1427
00:54:14,549 --> 00:54:12,480
was over a body of water

1428
00:54:16,150 --> 00:54:14,559
or something like that it was moving

1429
00:54:18,309 --> 00:54:16,160
away from her and she thought

1430
00:54:20,150 --> 00:54:18,319
as she was looking up at it she she just

1431
00:54:22,150 --> 00:54:20,160
it was like very beautiful to look at

1432
00:54:25,190 --> 00:54:22,160
and most of what

1433
00:54:28,150 --> 00:54:25,200
the ufos looked like in uh

1434
00:54:28,950 --> 00:54:28,160
new york during this flap they were very

1435
00:54:32,790 --> 00:54:28,960
boomerang

1436
00:54:34,950 --> 00:54:32,800
shaped they and uh

1437
00:54:37,430 --> 00:54:34,960
she put out there like no don't don't go

1438
00:54:37,990 --> 00:54:37,440
away so the ufo responded and it started

1439
00:54:40,150 --> 00:54:38,000
to come back

1440
00:54:41,430 --> 00:54:40,160
and it actually came toward her and then

1441
00:54:44,230 --> 00:54:41,440
she chickened out

1442
00:54:45,510 --> 00:54:44,240
getting too close and then it's like

1443
00:54:48,630 --> 00:54:45,520
fine you hurt my feelings

1444
00:54:51,990 --> 00:54:48,640
and the ufo went away and um

1445
00:54:53,990 --> 00:54:52,000
what a tease yeah no i know like

1446
00:54:55,910 --> 00:54:54,000
listen you got sometimes you got to be

1447
00:54:57,750 --> 00:54:55,920
brave sometimes you got to put on that

1448
00:54:59,270 --> 00:54:57,760
brave face if you're going to say

1449
00:55:01,030 --> 00:54:59,280
please don't go away don't hurt the

1450
00:55:01,670 --> 00:55:01,040
ufo's feelings saying no you're getting

1451
00:55:03,990 --> 00:55:01,680
too close

1452
00:55:06,309 --> 00:55:04,000
yep don't know what's what's the old

1453
00:55:07,910 --> 00:55:06,319
saying don't mess with the bull

1454
00:55:09,670 --> 00:55:07,920
oh yeah you get the horns man you get

1455
00:55:12,230 --> 00:55:09,680
those horns you don't want it

1456
00:55:13,910 --> 00:55:12,240
get this galactic horns yeah you get

1457
00:55:16,150 --> 00:55:13,920
those galactic horns but like

1458
00:55:17,349 --> 00:55:16,160
there there are a couple of accounts of

1459
00:55:20,069 --> 00:55:17,359
that happening

1460
00:55:20,470 --> 00:55:20,079
in uh the hudson valley flap and it it's

1461
00:55:23,990 --> 00:55:20,480
just

1462
00:55:26,789 --> 00:55:24,000
it's so great to to read those and

1463
00:55:28,549 --> 00:55:26,799
what brought that flap legitimacy to

1464
00:55:30,549 --> 00:55:28,559
begin with is that the first person that

1465
00:55:31,109 --> 00:55:30,559
reported anything was a police officer

1466
00:55:34,470 --> 00:55:31,119
so

1467
00:55:37,430 --> 00:55:34,480
exactly

1468
00:55:38,470 --> 00:55:37,440
that that just brings more credibility

1469
00:55:40,230 --> 00:55:38,480
uh

1470
00:55:42,069 --> 00:55:40,240
all the time whether it's military law

1471
00:55:45,430 --> 00:55:42,079
enforcement it just always

1472
00:55:45,829 --> 00:55:45,440
gives it something extra there um wow

1473
00:55:47,710 --> 00:55:45,839
man

1474
00:55:49,829 --> 00:55:47,720
oh well you know in that whole

1475
00:55:52,230 --> 00:55:49,839
parapsychological

1476
00:55:53,990 --> 00:55:52,240
phenomenon in the terms of these you

1477
00:55:55,670 --> 00:55:54,000
know whether it's thinking

1478
00:55:57,750 --> 00:55:55,680
or trying to communicate with the

1479
00:55:59,829 --> 00:55:57,760
phenomenon and it reacting

1480
00:56:01,190 --> 00:55:59,839
that's so fascinating to me and we hear

1481
00:56:03,910 --> 00:56:01,200
that a lot

1482
00:56:05,670 --> 00:56:03,920
in the lore with all of this but um

1483
00:56:07,670 --> 00:56:05,680
there's one lesson

1484
00:56:08,870 --> 00:56:07,680
that you taught me and i think we kind

1485
00:56:11,190 --> 00:56:08,880
of have to

1486
00:56:12,230 --> 00:56:11,200
bring back when it comes to all that and

1487
00:56:13,589 --> 00:56:12,240
it's um

1488
00:56:15,829 --> 00:56:13,599
i think you know where i'm going with

1489
00:56:19,270 --> 00:56:15,839
this what don't you do with ufos

1490
00:56:20,630 --> 00:56:19,280
rob you don't flash sos at a ufo because

1491
00:56:22,390 --> 00:56:20,640
you know what's going to happen

1492
00:56:23,990 --> 00:56:22,400
it's going to come abduct you it's going

1493
00:56:25,349 --> 00:56:24,000
to come back it's going to come down

1494
00:56:27,430 --> 00:56:25,359
it's going to abduct you you want to

1495
00:56:30,069 --> 00:56:27,440
know what it happened

1496
00:56:31,109 --> 00:56:30,079
to terry lovelace and and terry seems

1497
00:56:32,950 --> 00:56:31,119
like a really nice guy

1498
00:56:34,390 --> 00:56:32,960
to happen to him and his buddy happened

1499
00:56:35,990 --> 00:56:34,400
to the allagash guys

1500
00:56:38,069 --> 00:56:36,000
oh hey let's take you take our

1501
00:56:40,309 --> 00:56:38,079
flashlight and flash it out of ufo

1502
00:56:42,069 --> 00:56:40,319
what are we gonna do oh let's just you

1503
00:56:44,230 --> 00:56:42,079
know flash an sos

1504
00:56:45,829 --> 00:56:44,240
no they're going to pick you up you want

1505
00:56:47,270 --> 00:56:45,839
to know why because you said you needed

1506
00:56:49,750 --> 00:56:47,280
help

1507
00:56:50,789 --> 00:56:49,760
trying to be genuine here these aliens

1508
00:56:53,030 --> 00:56:50,799
trying to be genuine

1509
00:56:55,190 --> 00:56:53,040
trying to help people out but no you got

1510
00:56:57,270 --> 00:56:55,200
to go and you got to flash an sos

1511
00:56:58,710 --> 00:56:57,280
so they picked you up and you know what

1512
00:56:59,750 --> 00:56:58,720
they did some stuff with you well i

1513
00:57:00,390 --> 00:56:59,760
don't know why because you pissed them

1514
00:57:02,230 --> 00:57:00,400
off

1515
00:57:03,990 --> 00:57:02,240
you didn't need to be picked up you were

1516
00:57:04,710 --> 00:57:04,000
finding that damn canoe with the four of

1517
00:57:06,390 --> 00:57:04,720
you in it

1518
00:57:07,910 --> 00:57:06,400
you weren't catching fish you were do

1519
00:57:10,549 --> 00:57:07,920
you you didn't

1520
00:57:12,390 --> 00:57:10,559
complete your task but hey let's just

1521
00:57:15,109 --> 00:57:12,400
flash this ufo it

1522
00:57:16,549 --> 00:57:15,119
just don't do it folks do not flash an

1523
00:57:18,710 --> 00:57:16,559
sos at a ufo

1524
00:57:19,990 --> 00:57:18,720
that is the one lesson i want to teach

1525
00:57:23,750 --> 00:57:20,000
everybody here

1526
00:57:26,630 --> 00:57:23,760
don't do it and this has been

1527
00:57:28,870 --> 00:57:26,640
learning with rob on pbs thank you for

1528
00:57:32,549 --> 00:57:28,880
joining us tonight everyone next up is

1529
00:57:35,910 --> 00:57:32,559
uh what uh fresh air

1530
00:57:38,069 --> 00:57:35,920
coming up next oh wow man i

1531
00:57:39,349 --> 00:57:38,079
hey we didn't just learn about new york

1532
00:57:42,789 --> 00:57:39,359
ufos we learned

1533
00:57:43,910 --> 00:57:42,799
what not to do with these ufos and i

1534
00:57:45,510 --> 00:57:43,920
know

1535
00:57:47,190 --> 00:57:45,520
there's going to be so much more to

1536
00:57:50,069 --> 00:57:47,200
learn with the future

1537
00:57:52,309 --> 00:57:50,079
of our strange skies man so tell us

1538
00:57:54,710 --> 00:57:52,319
what's next for our strange skies

1539
00:57:55,910 --> 00:57:54,720
and uh this is not the only podcast that

1540
00:57:58,309 --> 00:57:55,920
you've hosted you

1541
00:57:59,510 --> 00:57:58,319
you've got one on music you've got one

1542
00:58:03,109 --> 00:57:59,520
on um

1543
00:58:04,470 --> 00:58:03,119
am i correct d and d oh yeah man yeah

1544
00:58:06,470 --> 00:58:04,480
tell us a little about everything you're

1545
00:58:09,030 --> 00:58:06,480
up to it's it's weird you know

1546
00:58:11,030 --> 00:58:09,040
you uh you say no i'm done with this

1547
00:58:12,950 --> 00:58:11,040
ufo's stuff and then you

1548
00:58:14,390 --> 00:58:12,960
start two more podcasts like what the

1549
00:58:16,309 --> 00:58:14,400
hell are you doing here you're

1550
00:58:19,349 --> 00:58:16,319
completely batshit but uh

1551
00:58:21,270 --> 00:58:19,359
yeah um with our strange skies we've got

1552
00:58:23,670 --> 00:58:21,280
new episodes in the works there's gonna

1553
00:58:27,030 --> 00:58:23,680
be some coming out real soon

1554
00:58:28,390 --> 00:58:27,040
and uh some really

1555
00:58:31,109 --> 00:58:28,400
great topics that we're gonna be

1556
00:58:32,470 --> 00:58:31,119
covering you know some abductions we're

1557
00:58:35,270 --> 00:58:32,480
going to be looking at

1558
00:58:37,270 --> 00:58:35,280
you know ufos as they progressed before

1559
00:58:39,829 --> 00:58:37,280
we got to 1947

1560
00:58:42,309 --> 00:58:39,839
a lot of really uh interesting topics

1561
00:58:44,789 --> 00:58:42,319
that uh i think will be enjoyable but

1562
00:58:46,950 --> 00:58:44,799
uh i do have a music podcast that i do

1563
00:58:49,270 --> 00:58:46,960
with my buddy brian hasty uh it's called

1564
00:58:52,630 --> 00:58:49,280
dakota music podcast we

1565
00:58:55,990 --> 00:58:52,640
start recording new episodes uh actually

1566
00:58:57,829 --> 00:58:56,000
really soon so um there's about 20 of

1567
00:59:00,870 --> 00:58:57,839
them there right now and if you want to

1568
00:59:03,670 --> 00:59:00,880
go give those a listen you can and i am

1569
00:59:04,470 --> 00:59:03,680
involved in the uh role-playing game

1570
00:59:07,670 --> 00:59:04,480
community

1571
00:59:09,190 --> 00:59:07,680
so um i do a podcast called the order of

1572
00:59:11,270 --> 00:59:09,200
podcasters in which uh

1573
00:59:12,950 --> 00:59:11,280
some friends of mine get together and we

1574
00:59:15,910 --> 00:59:12,960
uh play this game

1575
00:59:16,630 --> 00:59:15,920
uh called the esoteris which is kind of

1576
00:59:19,670 --> 00:59:16,640
like

1577
00:59:23,510 --> 00:59:19,680
x-files for people who have day jobs

1578
00:59:24,390 --> 00:59:23,520
so uh i play a character named myron

1579
00:59:27,270 --> 00:59:24,400
dripchin

1580
00:59:29,030 --> 00:59:27,280
and uh he is a coast-to-coast like

1581
00:59:31,670 --> 00:59:29,040
george nori character

1582
00:59:33,349 --> 00:59:31,680
and uh it was fun it's fun to play him

1583
00:59:36,390 --> 00:59:33,359
because he's over the top

1584
00:59:38,789 --> 00:59:36,400
i definitely stole some of uh nori's

1585
00:59:42,470 --> 00:59:38,799
best moments from coast to coast like

1586
00:59:45,670 --> 00:59:42,480
the infamous uh uh pizza roll incident

1587
00:59:47,349 --> 00:59:45,680
what is that you don't oh man there was

1588
00:59:48,230 --> 00:59:47,359
an episode of coast to coast and he

1589
00:59:51,510 --> 00:59:48,240
opened up

1590
00:59:54,710 --> 00:59:51,520
this episode by claiming

1591
00:59:57,430 --> 00:59:54,720
that he had he had

1592
00:59:58,470 --> 00:59:57,440
he had given himself third degree burns

1593
01:00:01,750 --> 00:59:58,480
by eating pizza

1594
01:00:02,710 --> 01:00:01,760
oh no i had to go to the hospital and

1595
01:00:05,990 --> 01:00:02,720
everything

1596
01:00:08,950 --> 01:00:06,000
wow it was so bad but uh

1597
01:00:09,270 --> 01:00:08,960
you know georginari has beats that are

1598
01:00:12,309 --> 01:00:09,280
just

1599
01:00:13,670 --> 01:00:12,319
uh completely amazing did he didn't he

1600
01:00:15,990 --> 01:00:13,680
correct me if i'm wrong didn't he fall

1601
01:00:18,230 --> 01:00:16,000
asleep on air once and

1602
01:00:20,069 --> 01:00:18,240
like the guest was talking and all you

1603
01:00:23,349 --> 01:00:20,079
could hear was nori snoring

1604
01:00:26,470 --> 01:00:23,359
yeah yep noreen's snoring

1605
01:00:29,510 --> 01:00:26,480
snoring yeah it's uh

1606
01:00:31,380 --> 01:00:29,520
tune in to the uh the new segment of my

1607
01:00:34,069 --> 01:00:31,390
podcast nori snoring and

1608
01:00:35,990 --> 01:00:34,079
[Laughter]

1609
01:00:37,510 --> 01:00:36,000
anytime there's a boring moment now on

1610
01:00:39,270 --> 01:00:37,520
my future episodes

1611
01:00:40,710 --> 01:00:39,280
i'm gonna play a sound bite of him

1612
01:00:43,990 --> 01:00:40,720
snoring yeah

1613
01:00:45,190 --> 01:00:44,000
tell your guests to uh you know

1614
01:00:47,270 --> 01:00:45,200
let's make this a little bit more

1615
01:00:48,950 --> 01:00:47,280
interesting come on uh yeah

1616
01:00:50,470 --> 01:00:48,960
you need yourself a sound board

1617
01:00:53,589 --> 01:00:50,480
definitely um

1618
01:00:54,950 --> 01:00:53,599
we have uh a bunch of episodes up now i

1619
01:00:57,270 --> 01:00:54,960
think like over

1620
01:00:58,069 --> 01:00:57,280
ten we've had we've done three different

1621
01:01:01,349 --> 01:00:58,079
adventures but

1622
01:01:04,150 --> 01:01:01,359
it's fun uh we we um

1623
01:01:05,750 --> 01:01:04,160
shoot monsters with guns and uh we have

1624
01:01:07,430 --> 01:01:05,760
fun doing it and we uh

1625
01:01:09,190 --> 01:01:07,440
kind of poke fun at the podcasting

1626
01:01:12,309 --> 01:01:09,200
community a little bit which is uh

1627
01:01:14,630 --> 01:01:12,319
always good as you should yep yes and uh

1628
01:01:16,630 --> 01:01:14,640
the fourth podcast i'm involved in is a

1629
01:01:19,990 --> 01:01:16,640
dungeons and dragons podcast called

1630
01:01:21,670 --> 01:01:20,000
rolling through the realms and uh we uh

1631
01:01:23,589 --> 01:01:21,680
uh me and my friends we get together we

1632
01:01:25,829 --> 01:01:23,599
play some d d it's uh

1633
01:01:27,030 --> 01:01:25,839
it's funny at times it's heartwarming

1634
01:01:27,750 --> 01:01:27,040
you know you get a little bit of

1635
01:01:30,710 --> 01:01:27,760
everything

1636
01:01:31,670 --> 01:01:30,720
um so yeah there if they're if you're

1637
01:01:33,910 --> 01:01:31,680
looking

1638
01:01:35,829 --> 01:01:33,920
if you're so in love with my voice which

1639
01:01:37,030 --> 01:01:35,839
i really hope you're not please don't be

1640
01:01:38,950 --> 01:01:37,040
in love with my voice

1641
01:01:40,870 --> 01:01:38,960
but if you are there is plenty of

1642
01:01:43,430 --> 01:01:40,880
content out there for you now

1643
01:01:44,390 --> 01:01:43,440
i'm not in love with your voice rob i'm

1644
01:01:47,670 --> 01:01:44,400
in love with the

1645
01:01:50,710 --> 01:01:47,680
idea of your voice okay uh yeah okay

1646
01:01:51,990 --> 01:01:50,720
okay i got you okay so now i'm gonna get

1647
01:01:54,230 --> 01:01:52,000
messages of people saying

1648
01:01:55,750 --> 01:01:54,240
that ryan thank you you're very welcome

1649
01:01:58,549 --> 01:01:55,760
man hey if there's anything you're known

1650
01:02:00,789 --> 01:01:58,559
for it's catchphrases don't lick ufos

1651
01:02:02,789 --> 01:02:00,799
don't do it and everything in between

1652
01:02:04,630 --> 01:02:02,799
brother this was awesome where can we

1653
01:02:07,990 --> 01:02:04,640
find everything you're up to

1654
01:02:09,829 --> 01:02:08,000
if you wanna stay in touch uh

1655
01:02:12,549 --> 01:02:09,839
on twitter is probably the best place to

1656
01:02:13,270 --> 01:02:12,559
find me these days at your ufo guys

1657
01:02:16,549 --> 01:02:13,280
spelled

1658
01:02:17,190 --> 01:02:16,559
y e r ufo guy i usually post updates

1659
01:02:21,430 --> 01:02:17,200
there

1660
01:02:23,910 --> 01:02:21,440
um pretty much uh every single one of my

1661
01:02:25,029 --> 01:02:23,920
podcast projects with the exception of

1662
01:02:28,549 --> 01:02:25,039
our strange guys

1663
01:02:31,670 --> 01:02:28,559
has a social media presence so

1664
01:02:34,230 --> 01:02:31,680
you can find us out there but uh yeah

1665
01:02:35,190 --> 01:02:34,240
the best musings that uh that i often

1666
01:02:37,910 --> 01:02:35,200
have is

1667
01:02:39,430 --> 01:02:37,920
they come on uh twitter and i'd like to

1668
01:02:42,549 --> 01:02:39,440
read one for all of you

1669
01:02:46,230 --> 01:02:42,559
right now i had this thought earlier

1670
01:02:48,789 --> 01:02:46,240
earlier today um and uh

1671
01:02:49,750 --> 01:02:48,799
it goes something like this imagine

1672
01:02:51,670 --> 01:02:49,760
being a gray

1673
01:02:53,190 --> 01:02:51,680
and realizing that you have no chance of

1674
01:02:55,270 --> 01:02:53,200
having a dump truck

1675
01:02:56,549 --> 01:02:55,280
that is depressing as there you go

1676
01:02:58,150 --> 01:02:56,559
there you go

1677
01:02:59,750 --> 01:02:58,160
those are the kind of thoughts you could

1678
01:03:02,789 --> 01:02:59,760
get from me

1679
01:03:04,710 --> 01:03:02,799
oh my gosh it's like uh what is it deep

1680
01:03:06,950 --> 01:03:04,720
thoughts with jack handy

1681
01:03:09,190 --> 01:03:06,960
you're killing it man you're just

1682
01:03:11,430 --> 01:03:09,200
dropping bombs everywhere you step i

1683
01:03:13,589 --> 01:03:11,440
love it i absolutely love it wait

1684
01:03:14,789 --> 01:03:13,599
dude this has been it's been so good to

1685
01:03:17,510 --> 01:03:14,799
just lay back

1686
01:03:19,270 --> 01:03:17,520
and laugh about things you know

1687
01:03:20,390 --> 01:03:19,280
especially in the world today with

1688
01:03:23,670 --> 01:03:20,400
everything going on

1689
01:03:25,750 --> 01:03:23,680
um this was exactly what i needed

1690
01:03:27,029 --> 01:03:25,760
i i know it's what a lot of our

1691
01:03:30,150 --> 01:03:27,039
listeners probably

1692
01:03:31,430 --> 01:03:30,160
needed as well so first of all it is so

1693
01:03:34,230 --> 01:03:31,440
good to have you back

1694
01:03:36,230 --> 01:03:34,240
with our strange skies and of course i

1695
01:03:37,029 --> 01:03:36,240
have to thank you for coming on today

1696
01:03:39,670 --> 01:03:37,039
brother

1697
01:03:41,670 --> 01:03:39,680
i appreciate you having me on anytime

1698
01:03:43,430 --> 01:03:41,680
that we can laugh anytime that we can

1699
01:03:45,910 --> 01:03:43,440
make other people laugh

1700
01:03:47,109 --> 01:03:45,920
it's good in the ufo community because

1701
01:03:49,910 --> 01:03:47,119
i've said this

1702
01:03:51,829 --> 01:03:49,920
many times before y'all sometimes you

1703
01:03:53,510 --> 01:03:51,839
take yourself a little too seriously you

1704
01:03:56,630 --> 01:03:53,520
need to learn to laugh a little bit

1705
01:03:57,270 --> 01:03:56,640
uh and i'm glad that i can bring forth

1706
01:03:59,990 --> 01:03:57,280
laughs

1707
01:04:01,270 --> 01:04:00,000
do not let aliens leave one star reviews

1708
01:04:10,829 --> 01:04:01,280
for your podcasts

1709
01:04:25,140 --> 01:04:13,070
epidemic

1710
01:04:26,220 --> 01:04:25,150
[Music]

1711
01:04:48,309 --> 01:04:26,230
[Applause]

1712
01:04:50,230 --> 01:04:48,319
[Music]

1713
01:04:51,510 --> 01:04:50,240
somewhere in the skies is produced by

1714
01:04:53,349 --> 01:04:51,520
third kind productions